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#75904 - 07/30/09 05:07 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: johnhornor]
john_sunseri Offline
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(laughing) Are you enjoying this Birther show as much as I am? I wake up every day eager to see the next chapter.
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#75906 - 07/30/09 05:08 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: johnhornor]
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You know what book I dearly love that is NOT American?

THE WOLVES by Hans Helmut Kirst. And THE NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVES. Anyone here a Kirst fan?
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#75908 - 07/30/09 05:12 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: johnhornor]
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ah you guys are great, thank you.
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#75909 - 07/30/09 05:14 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: johnhornor]
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Never heard of him/her, actually. I'll look into the guy.

My favorite non-American books are LES MISERABLES, THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO and DON QUIXOTE. I'm not counting English-language books, of course--just translations.
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#75911 - 07/30/09 05:14 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: Utmost Pathos]
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Your local bookstore should be thanking us. But you're welcome.
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#75919 - 07/30/09 05:58 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: john_sunseri]
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Dan Simmons comments:

Interesting lists.

Dan Simmons (and his mentor) suggest:

1) All of Shakespeare's plays
2) Dante's DIVINE COMEDY
3) Chaucer's CANTERBURY TALES
4) Cervantes -- DON QUIXOTE
5) Daniel DeFoe -- ROBINSON CRUSOE and MOLL FLANDERS
6) Jonathan Swift -- GULLIVER'S TRAVELS
7) Samuel Richardson -- CLARISSA
8) Henry Fielding -- TOM JONES
9) Laurence Sterne -- TRISTAM SHANDY
10) Oliver Goldsmith -- THE VICAR OF WAKEFIELD and SHE STOOPS TO CONQUER
11) Jane Austen -- PRIDE AND PREJUDICE, MANSFIELD PARK, EMMA, and PERSUASION
12) Stendahl -- THE RED AND THE BLACK
13) Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley -- FRANKENSTEIN
14) Balzac -- PERE GORIOT
15) Nathaniel Hawthorne -- THE SCARLET LETTER
16) Charles Dickens -- A TALE OF TWO CITIES, GREAT EXPECTATIONS, DAVID COPPERFIELD, and BLEAK HOUSE
17) Anthony Trollope -- BARCHESTER TOWERS, THE WARDEN
18) Charlotte Bronte (umlaut) --JANE EYRE
19) Emily Bronte (another umlaut) -- WUTHERING HEIGHTS
20) George Eliot -- MIDDLEMARCH, SILAS MARNER, THE MILL ON THE FLOSS
21) Gustave Flaubert -- MADAME BOVARY, SENTIMENTAL EDUCATION
22) Fyodor Dostoevsky -- CRIME AND PUNISHMENT and THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV
23) Leo Tolstoy -- ANNA KARENINA
24) Mark Twain -- HUCKLEBERRY FINN
25) Emile Zola (third umlaut) -- THERESA RAQUIN (backward and forward accent marks in first name)
26) Thomas Hardy -- THE MAYOR OF CASTERBRIDGE, THE RETURN OF THE NATIVE, TESS OF THE d'UBERVILLES, JUDE THE OBSCURE
27) Henry James -- THE AMBASSADORS and THE PORTRAIT OF A LADY
28) Joseph Conrad -- LORD JIM, HEART OF DARKNESS, and NOSTROMO
29) Edith Wharton -- THE AGE OF INNOCENCE, THE CUSTOM OF THE COUNTRY, and ETHAN FROMME
30) Rudyard Kipling -- KIM
31) Willa Cather -- MY ANTONIA and A LOST LADY
32) Herman Hesse -- STEPPENWOLF and MAGISTER LUDI
33) Upton Sinclair -- THE JUNGLE
34) Stephen Crane -- THE RED BADGE OF COURAGE and MAGGIE
35) E.M. Forster -- HOWARDS END and A PASSAGE TO INDIA
36) Virginia Woolf -- MRS. DALLOWAY and TO THE LIGHTHOUSE
37) James Joyce -- THE PORTRAIT OF AN ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN and ULYSSES
38) Franz Kafka -- THE CASTLE and THE TRIAL
39) D.H. Lawrence -- SONS AND LOVERS, THE RAINBOW, and WOMEN IN LOVE
40) Sinclair Lewis -- ARROWSMITH and BABBIT (and I like MAIN STREET)
41) F. Scott Fitzgerald -- THE GREAT GATSBY and TENDER IS THE NIGHT
42) William Faulkner -- THE SOUND AND THE FURY, SANCTUARY, LIGHT IN AUGUST, ABSALOM, ABSALOM!
43) Ernest Hemingway -- THE SUN ALSO RISES, A FAREWELL TO ARMS,THE OLD MAN AND THE SEA
44) John Steinbeck -- THE GRAPES OF WRATH and OF MICE AND MEN
45) Nathanael West -- MISS LONELYHEARTS
46) George Orwell -- 1984 and ANIMAL FARM
47) Graham Greene -- BRIGHTON ROCK
48) Robert Penn Warren -- ALL THE KING'S MEN
49) Richard Wright -- NATIVE SON
50) William Golding -- THE LORD OF THE FLIES
51) Albert Camus -- THE STRANGER and THE PLAGUE
52) Bernard Malamud -- THE FIXER and THE TENANTS
53) Saul Bellow -- HERZOG, MR. SAMMLER'S PLANET and HUMBOLDT'S GIFT
54) Walker Percy -- THE MOVIEGOER
55) Carson McCullers -- THE HEART IS A LONELY HUNTER and THE BALLAD OF THE SAD CAFE
56) Anthony Burgess -- THE ENDERBY CYCLE, NOTHING LIKE THE SUN, and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
57) Iris Murdoch -- THE GOOD APPRENTICE
58) William Gaddis -- THE RECOGNITIONS
59) Stanley Elkins -- THE DICK GIBSON SHOW
60) Jose Saramago -- THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST
61) Norman Mailer -- THE NAKED AND THE DEAD and ANCIENT EVENINGS
62) James Baldwin -- THE FIRE NEXT TIME, THE PRICE OF THE TICKET, and GO TELL IT ON THE MOUNTAIN
63) Flannery O'Connor -- THE VIOLENT BEAR IT AWAY
64) Gabriel Garcia Marquez -- ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF SOLITUDE, LOVE IN THE TIME OF CHOLERA
65) Ursula K. LeGuin -- THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS
66) Jack Vance -- THE DRAGON MASTERS, THE DYING EARTH tales, and THE LANGUAGES OF PAO
67) Toni Morrison -- BELOVED
68) Philip Roth -- THE ZUCKERMAN tetralogy, SABBATH'S THEATER and PORTNOY'S COMPLAINT
69) John Fowles -- THE FRENCH LIEUTENANT'S WOMAN and DANIEL MARTIN
70) Cormac McCarthy -- BLOOD MERIDIAN and ALL THE PRETTY HORSES
71) Don DeLillo -- WHITE NOISE and UNDERWORLD
72) Thomas Pynchon -- GRAVITY'S RAINBOW, V,THE CRYING OF LOT 49, and MASON & DIXON
73) Herman Melville -- MOBY DICK
74) Marcel Proust -- IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME
75) Homer -- THE ILIAD and the ODYSSEY
76) Virgil -- THE AENEAD

That's the first month of Joe Kurtz's reading in jail. After that, the list gets idiosyncratic and interesting.

I would say that anyone writing for publication who hasn't read the vast majority of the books above is -- at the very least -- at a serious disadvantage to those readers and authors who have. Ditto on any reader who simply wants to be part of the ancient and ongoing dialogue that is literature and good fiction. Sorry for any typos.

Dan


Edited by Dan Simmons (07/30/09 06:17 AM)

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#75922 - 07/30/09 06:24 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: Dan Simmons]
Lasombra Offline
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 Originally Posted By: DS

That's the first month of Joe Kurtz's reading in jail.


What would you call a guy who could whup a heavyweight boxer in a fistfight, shoot his way through a horde of Mafia hitmen, and then throw a NEW YORKER critic with a PhD in literary theory into an existential crisis with the depth and breadth of his knowledge?

If there was some way to set that list of feats to the music from SHAFT, we'd have a Joe Kurtz theme song...
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#75944 - 07/30/09 09:26 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: Lasombra]
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Hmmm...no Salinger or Malamud.
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#76053 - 07/31/09 12:22 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: Dan Simmons]
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Nice to see the names Le Guin and Vance mentioned along side all these other great writers.

Both are living treasures and deserve all the acclimation we can muster for each of them -- especially while they still grace the Earth with their respective presences.

Aaron.

P.S. Thank you for that wonderful list by the way, Dan. Hope you didn't wear the skin off your fingers typing it up!
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#76069 - 07/31/09 04:44 AM Re: Your literary suggestions? [Re: Aaron P]
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Loc: Iceland
Although it does bother me somewhat that Poe and Lovecraft are missing from the list, I sort of understand it.

I would have liked to see Ondaatje's English Patient on there though.

I see, however, that I have plenty left to read, so there is no reason to add much to that list.

Thanks Dan.

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