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#169660 - 02/05/20 04:36 AM State of the Union address by DJ Trump
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By simply ignoring all the pygmy Democrats nipping at his heels, striding right through them, as it were, Donald Trump tonight brushed the ridiculous impeachment charade off his shoulder like a man in a suit brushing off a piece of lint off. He was focused on things far more important, far bigger than the partisan animus the Democrats have been wallowing in for the last three years. His accomplishments are truly stunning. When laid out end to end, they seem like they could reach the moon.

Love or hate the State of the Union address as an annual rite, you have to admit that Trump used this one to maximum effect. He threw down the gauntlet to the Democrats in a variety of areas:
  • He challenged their ill-conceived and pandering shift leftward into socialism by showcasing the booming economy. The results in almost every economic measure speak for themselves.
  • He showed that his version of the Republican Party is inclusive and beneficial to black, Hispanic and Asian Americans.
  • He highlighted the fact that terrorists fear the United States now because they know he won't draw any phony red lines in the sand and will not hesitate to blow them into pieces if they step out of line.
  • He spoke up for the unborn in no uncertain terms.
  • He defended the Second Amendment in no uncertain terms
There was more, but I won't repeat it all. Go listen for yourself, or read the speech, if you think I'm wrong.

His use of political theater was off the charts: he didn't shy away from sticking a thumb in Democrat eyes by honoring Rush Limbaugh with the Medal of Freedom. As someone who has listened off and on to Limbaugh since he first came on the radio on KFBK/Sacramento in 1988, it was well-deserved. One of the most effective moments, after honoring families who had lost someone serving our country, he went the other direction and reunited the family of a deployed serviceman whom who had arrived, unbeknownst to his family, at the speech.

His poll numbers are stronger than ever after having everything but the kitchen sink thrown at him by the likes of Schiff, Nadler, Schumer and Pelosi. Schiff will be remembered as a worthy successor to Joe McCarthy, Nadler will be remembered as the bumbling boob he turned out to be, Pelosi's career will forever be overshadowed by this ludicrous attempt to overturn the 2016 election, and Schumer will deservedly be forgotten as the irrelevant politician he has turned out to be. Trump is dwarfing them all.

The Democrat response from the governor of Michigan was weak and inconsequential as she prattled on about plumbing and potholes. The Democrats have nothing left to throw at Trump. That won't stop them from trying , though, but their next dirty trick will only sully them further. And the most consesquential moment of the night, amongst many, may turn out to be Nancy Pelosi tearing up the President's speech. That is going to be shoved up Democratic tailpipes from now till the election, and it will pay dividends. Left-wing reporters fawn over Pelosi's supposed political genius and acumen, but I contend she's about as sharp as marble. That was a stupid, and I mean STUPID, thing to do. She merely reinforced the image she and the rest of her cohorts have been steadily crafting since 2016, that is, an image of smallness. The Democratic Party is now populated with a lot of small-minded people, and if they're not careful, they're going to end up as bizarre and irrelevant as Lyndon LaRouche and his followers.
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#169662 - 02/05/20 05:42 PM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: jmill]
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/pelosis-pique.php

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As President Trump moved into the wrenching heart of his speech, Pelosi demonstrated her disapproval with a variety of facial maneuvers. Like a third-rate actress, Pelosi sought to express irrepressible rage. You canít keep a good nut down. Pelosiís theatrics culminated in her tearing up the presidentís text of the speech.

What a performance.

Pelosi put me in mind of The Woman In White, the Gothic novel by Wilkie Collins.


She needed a tall glass of laudanum last night.

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#169670 - 02/19/20 03:21 AM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: jmill]
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My fear is the way Trump is exploiting his position is going to lead to a precedent that will be followed by future Presidents. How are people on this board going to feel when a Democratic President decides to flaunt the law, get rid of everyone around him who doesn't bow to his every whim and tweet about outcomes of federal cases that he doesn't agree with causing every single one of the prosecutors on the case to quit?

What goes around comes around and regardless of what you think about Trump's policies he is changing the role of the President of the United States and not for the better. It's one thing to be a loose cannon but when you're blasting everything around you with reckless disregard, the vacuum is going to be filled by whatever deadly mold is lingering once the cannon is out of ammunition.
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#169672 - 02/19/20 02:20 PM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: springer2]
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I think the perception here at the time was that Obama was doing these very things.

Edited by Graeme D (02/19/20 02:20 PM)

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#169673 - 02/19/20 06:17 PM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: ColinFraizer]
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Two and a half weeks later, and Speaker Pelosi is STILL fixated on the SOTU speech.
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#169682 - 02/23/20 12:37 AM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: springer2]
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 Originally Posted By: springer2
My fear is the way Trump is exploiting his position is going to lead to a precedent that will be followed by future Presidents. How are people on this board going to feel when a Democratic President decides to flaunt the law, get rid of everyone around him who doesn't bow to his every whim and tweet about outcomes of federal cases that he doesn't agree with causing every single one of the prosecutors on the case to quit?

What goes around comes around and regardless of what you think about Trump's policies he is changing the role of the President of the United States and not for the better. It's one thing to be a loose cannon but when you're blasting everything around you with reckless disregard, the vacuum is going to be filled by whatever deadly mold is lingering once the cannon is out of ammunition.



Out of curiosity, can you name any policy differences between Obama and his cabinet?

I think the issue we see here that we haven't seen before is subordinates who see themselves as above the president. That they keep losing is setting the right precedent.
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#169684 - 02/25/20 03:39 PM Re: State of the Union address by DJ Trump [Re: jryan]
jmill Offline
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With all due respect to Springer2, flaunting the law and exploiting your position is something EVERY president has either actually done or at least been accused of. Trump is just more open and in-your-face about his actions, and so far, he hasn't done anything that the courts or any law enforcement agency could legitimately point to as flaunting the law. That's why he keeps winning in the courts. He has used the power of presidential mandates, just as many before him have done, and the way you counteract that is to elect someone else who will reverse those mandates. That's exactly what Republicans did with Trump: they elected him, and he undid a lot of what Obama had instituted.

As to getting rid of everyone around him who doesn't "bow to his every whim", that is every president's prerogative. It's public, and we can decide how we feel about that at the ballot box.

I'm far more concerned with a much deadlier practice that has been exposed: the "deep state" taking active political stances in their work, that mass of normally faceless bureaucrats who move over into actual opposition to the president's policies and become secret activists trying to derail a presidency from the inside. That's a coup, as far as I am concerned, and that's treason. I wouldn't tolerate it if it were aimed at a Democratic president either. That's the path to banana republic status. And in what universe is, for example, a Colonel Vindman justified, in any sense of the word, in participating in an impeachment process because the president didn't mouth his words to a foreign leader? I didn't elect Vindman, I elected Trump, and it is a president's absolute right to set foreign policy in any way he or she sees fit, not Vindman's. Vindman is supposed to carry out the president's wishes, not secretly plot with others to try and remove the president. Ambassador's and every other high level appointee serve at the pleasure of the President. Trump's only mistake here was in not cleaning house from day one, firing the lot of them, and appointing his own folks.

The last three years has been one of the most shameful periods in American politics ever. It has pushed this country right up to the edge of an actual coup, and that was done by Democrats, not Republicans. When Obama was elected, Republicans did everything they could within the framework of acceptable political behavior to thwart his ideas, and to call him out on the stupidity of his foreign policy actions, comments on race relations, health care policies, economic actions and regulatory stances. They didn't engage in any filthy, underhanded, phony impeachment attempts. The worst I heard about Obama that was untrue or unfair were the birthers, who tried to claim that Obama wasn't born in the United States, and the birthers were shunned by the Republicans Party. There was no Antifa (America's new Brown Shirts) rioting, burning and beating people in the streets. Obama had to contend with the Tea Party, a group that had many peaceful, successful rallies challenging Obama's policies. They never burnt anything down, they never beat anyone, they never left a mess behind when they were done, and none of them were arrested for rallying. They didn't "occupy Wall Street" or anything remotely as stupid as that. But they were illegally pressured and investigated and denied status by the IRS on Obama's watch. There's a stark reminder of the difference between the way conservatives in this country operate as opposed to the way liberals conduct themselves.

But the Democratic Party, from the top down, swallowed whole the rotten fruits of collusion, obstruction (as if a president had to bow to every whim of the Congress, or allow Congress access to its innermost staff under subpoena, both of which are patently against our constitution), and are now trying to illogically say that if a foreign country interferes in our elections on behalf of a particular candidate, then it is that candidate's fault and you must blame them for it, even if they had nothing to do with it. (And by the way, I don't believe the Russians or any other enemy of the United States tried to help Trump. Their interests were far better served with Hillary Clinton, who had proven to be ineffective to the point of incompetency as Secretary of State, as president. Trump collusion is a fairy tale designed to pump up the base.) That's the most dangerous aspect of all of this nonsense, effectively ceding control of our elections to our enemies by simply saying "if another country supports you, then you are fraudulent". The fact is, a lot of countries try in one way or another to interfere in other countries' elections. Normally it's public, such as Obama's use of taxpayer money to try and unseat Netanyahu (anybody okay with that?). Sometimes it's sub rosa, and we need to guard against that, but far more important is safeguarding the actual votes cast, and there was zero evidence that any votes were tampered with by foreign powers. The left's god, Obama himself, said as much after the 2016 election.

I believe what we are actually witnessing is the death throes of the Democratic party as it is currently constituted. The leftist octogenarians in charge of their party didn't have the balls to stop the ultra extreme leftists from hijacking their party platform. Pelosi, Schiff and the rest are cowards, bending to the will of a vicious, vocal minority of extreme America haters. The Democratic Party must reform itself, get back to being the loyal opposition, and cut out the cancer of left-wing extremism with extreme prejudice.
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