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#169166 - 06/03/19 09:06 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
Graeme D Offline
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Thank you for this link. It is refreshing to read someone unafraid to speak plain, unadorned truth. Barr has earned my respect.
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#169177 - 06/10/19 05:50 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: Graeme D]
jmill Offline
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So now the Dems want to resurrect John Dean's moldering political corpse and have him testify in congress. Why? What does John Dean have to do with any of this Russian hoax?

I'll tell you why. Because they have been trying unsuccessfully to paint this whole nonsensical Russian collusion story as their own little Watergate. They are so devastated about the huge nothing-burger of the Mueller investigation, so upset that they can't bring down Trump like Nixon was brought down, that they are now grasping at straws. It's a publicity stunt, pure and simple, and one that stinks of desperation.

It's also a window into the psyche of the modern American left-winger (basically the entire Democratic party now). The modern left-winger cannot bear the thought that they maybe don't count for as much as they think their predecessors did in terms of "saving the world". Never mind that their predecessors didn't really do squat to "save the world" except to take over the media and the schools and churn out endless streams of vile propaganda about everything you can imagine: sex, race, police officers, soldiers, conservatives, etc. Never mind that the suicide of Abbie Hoffman is more emblematic of the Sixties Hippie/Yippie Generation's accomplishments than anything else. They have a messiah complex that tells the world is doomed, and only they can save it: "The world is headed for extinction unless you do exactly what we say and change everything drastically! See, aren't we heroic, aren't we special, aren't we important?!?" It's this neurotic verging on psychotic insistence that everything is moments away from complete destruction (e.g. the Doomsday Clock, Al Gore's phony predictions, Occasional Cortex's 12-years-till-it's-too-late pronouncement, Trump-is-Hitler-and-democracy is over! hysteria, etc.) that drives them to do and say such astoundingly stupid things (52 genders! Your sex is determined by your feelings! Pack the Supreme Court! Get rid of the Electoral College!) and to hyperventilate endlessly about the coming apocalypses (Anthropogenic Global Warming! The Death of the spotted owl! The Death of the polar bear! There's a hole in the ozone! The glaciers are melting!). They use a bizarre, untethered from reality approach to justify their fascist tendencies to try and force groupthink onto all Americans by ruthlessly bullying them legally, socially and any other way they can find. Antifa is a perfect example of this mass delusion that Hitler is back and only WE left-wing progressive liberals with black face masks and clubs, batteries, bike locks, urine, pepper spray can stop him! Welcome to the new Brownshirts.

And what do these crazy beliefs remind me of? Religious fundamentalism. That's why I have been saying for years that left-wingers wallow in their political tripe because it is tied into belief and faith, not into reality. It's that faith and belief that leads them to do the same things over and over again, and that keeps them continually shocked and amazed that their policies failed AGAIN. They're are convinced beyond discussion that they have the One True Answer to all of life's problems. Only religious fervor can explain this kind of obstinate stupidity. At least with most religious fundamentalists (with one gigantic, notable exception in Islam), they simply live their faith and just look down on the rest of us for not seeing the "obvious truth". They don't try to, violently or otherwise, force the rest of us to join them in their mass delusions. Not so with left-wingers!

I hope that enough Americans will always look at these whackos, who are in the minority but make enough noise and cause enough trouble for a group a thousand times their size, and realize what a pernicious evil influence they are and reject them soundly. America cannot be held hostage to their neuroses and self-centered insistence that they are more important than the rest of us and thus due obeisance. I'm betting that normal folks will prevail, but it won't be easy, it never is, and it never ends, because like weeds, these kinds of fools always come back.

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#169243 - 07/24/19 02:09 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
jmill Offline
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Robert Mueller just got old before our very eyes. Like a boxer who has stayed in the game a fight too long, his legs were stiff, his speech mumbled and unsteady, and his faculties confused and dimmed. Ranking Republican House Judiciary member Doug Collins of Georgia just chewed him up and spit him out. For example, he asked him if if ["conspiracy" and "collusion" were colloquially the same thing, and Mueller said no. Collins then quoted Mueller's own report, which indicated otherwise.] The bracketed material is from a written report on Fox News, but I listened to the questioning and it's perfectly accurate. Mueller has been a fraud from the start.

Instead of saying there was no collusion and no obstruction, he tried to game the system on obstruction for the political benefit of the Democrats, and now it's coming to light. What an ignominious end to what had been an upstanding career in law enforcement. There's no fool like an old fool.

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#169246 - 07/26/19 06:00 AM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
jmill Offline
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I wonder how much border wall the $34 million spent on this ridiculous investigation would have bought...okay, a little research shows it costs ~$22 million per mile for the wall, so a little over a mile and a half of border fence. We would have gotten magnitudes more value for our tax dollars with the fence than we got out of 438 pages of gibberish from Hillary Clinton's lawyer pals and donors on the Mueller committee.

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#169247 - 07/26/19 06:07 AM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
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I wonder what Barr's and U.S. Attorney John Durham's investigations into the FISA warrants and other related matters will turn up. I'm not holding my breath, but it's conceivable that people could end up in prison before all is said and done. Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok, Page, McCabe...there are a lot of people who need to answer some serious questions.

Edited by jmill (07/26/19 06:16 AM)

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#169248 - 07/26/19 08:46 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
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Jerry Nadler, Democratic chair of the House Judiciary Committee, is a bald-faced liar. During the hearing Mueller answered "yes" when he was asked if the only reason he didn't indict Trump was because of the Office of Legal counsel opinion that you can't indict a sitting president. He came back from break and immediately corrected himself (obviously his handlers told him had lied under oath) that that was not the reason he didn't indict Trump. The plain fact is that he didn't indict Trump, or lay out the reasons for an indictment regardless of whether or not it was legally possible, was because there wasn't any evidence of anything for which Trump could be indicted.

So today Nadler holds a press conference about his upcoming fishing expedition (subpoenaing Trump family members and their emails to comb through them looking for anything they think they can use) and repeats Mueller's first answer and ignores his correction. Nadler is a phony and a liar, and I hope he is unseated by the uber-left winger running against him in the upcoming elections. That will serve two purposes: punish Nadler for being the lying, anti-American sack of horse manure that he is, and having another left-wing Democratic whacko in Congress will further alienate the Democratic party from the vast majority of Americans.

I think it's plainly obvious now that this whole Russian collusion hoax really has nothing to do with Russians and everything to do with trying to undo a legitimate election. If the Democrats were to somehow succeed in getting rid of Trump (and I don't think that's a realistic possibility at all now), they would set this country up for its second civil war. They lost fair and square, and just can't handle it. Bring on the cocoa and puppies again to soothe those poor little left-wing snowflakes who can't handle being thwarted in any fashion, and who would be willing to turn America in to a banana republic in order to get their way.

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#169249 - 07/26/19 08:54 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
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And a final question: I know that Mueller looked old and frail and confused during his testimony. Fine, he got old. But did he also lose his sense of right and wrong? Because what he did by pursuing this investigation for almost two years longer than necessary (he knew within the first couple of months there was no evidence of collusion) was morally and ethically wrong. He did it for political reasons. Was he mad at Trump for not picking him to be FBI Director, or is he a never-Trumper, or is there some other unwholesome reason for his spiteful actions? I don't know, but I do know that if he committed a crime (say, shot his wife after an argument), old and befuddled or not, he would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He still knows what's right and what's wrong, so if you have any sympathy for poor little confused Bob, don't bother. He's a big boy who chose to either knowingly participate in what has indeed turned out to be a witch hunt, or he allowed himself to be used as a figureheadin the effort to undermine a legitimate sitting president. Either way, he knew better.

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#169251 - 07/27/19 04:06 PM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
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jmill, perhaps we need to go back to Eric Hoffer's insights again. Kevin Williamson's "The Smallest Minority: Independent Thinking in the Age of Mob Politics quotes him 0n p.141. Hoffer writes that "Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life. Thus people haunted by the purposelessness of their lives try to find a new content not only by dedicating themselves to a holy cause but also by nursing a fanatical grievance." And perhaps Durkheim's insights into human alienation would once again help to explain some of todays political "awokeness". Or perhaps George F. Will's "The Conservative Sensibility" may offer insights into the current fanaticism. Will writes on p.528 that "the idea that human nature has a history----that human beings have only a malleable nature shaped by their time and place---has animated modern tyrannies...To say that human nature is plastic is to open the way to governments that regard the creation of new, improved forms of humanity as the highest government project. such governments are apt to unleash "consciousness-raisers" who use political power to extirpate "false consciousness." Perhaps.
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#169253 - 07/28/19 04:53 AM Re: Mueller report [Re: Ward]
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Ward, it's interesting that, though I haven't read his work, I have been thinking along similar (or parallel) lines as Hoffer, but cast in different terms. In conversation with friends (and perhaps even a post or two on this forum) I have been trying to formulate a model for the crusader mentality of the left. I've thought of it as people who feel so superfluous, not because their lives are empty, but because their lives are so easy that they have to create a great evil to combat in order to feel valuable. (And maybe that's just another way of saying empty, though I do see a subtle difference). I think of them as needing to see themselves as embarking on a great venture with the fate of humanity hanging in the balance because their modern American lives are so relatively risk-free. They have this drive to accomplish something, anything, against great odds. Compared to people of no more than a hundred years ago, our lives are amazingly rich. This isn't to diminish the daily struggle to make a living, but rather to recognize the abundance of America in 2019 when compared to any other time in history, here or anywhere else in the world. Here even homeless people have cell phones and enough to eat if they are willing to take advantage of community outreach (churches, government programs, etc.) When you're scratching in the dirt just to get enough to eat to survive for one more day, you don't have time for the luxuries of social protest and all the other insane inanities of the modern left. The exception to that seems to be religious extremism, where even in third-world countries, where actual starvation is a possibility, people will still join in religious crusades regardless of their personal wealth or economic status.

Since these American extremists feel that they are literally trying to save the planet, their rhetoric and thinking is all out of proportion to the actual problem, and since the stakes are so high, the ends justify the means. That's why everything is couched in such apocalyptic terms: save the earth from people, Trump is Adolph Hitler, there are concentration camps on the border, eight skinheads marching in Skokie or someplace means that Nazis are overunning our cities, etc. Just today Trump blasted Rep Elijah Cummings for slamming border conditions for illegal aliens while his own major city, Baltimore, is in far worse shape, according to Trump. Pelosi immediately comes to Cummings's defense, not by pointing to any metrics that show that Baltimore is a great place, but by calling the Tweet racist. I didn't see anywhere in the Tweet where Trump said anything about Cummings's skin color or "race", but Pelosi jumped right to that card. Alexandria Cortez broadcasts live on Instagram that we have 12 years before the world ends due to Global Warming so we have to end coal use and oil use in a dozen years and get rid of all the farting cows or else. In the eighties, the spotted owl was going to go extinct because of old growth logging (it didn't, and it was discovered that it lives in far more places than just old growth forest), and acid rain was going to kill us all so we must immediately stop all industry. Overpopulation was going to lead to mass starvation so NO MORE CHILDREN! The Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska was going to permanently destroy the ocean's ecosystem so NO MORE OIL! The list goes on and on. It's Chicken Little, all the time, every time. And the answer is always to increase government control of our lives, which leads to the second point in your post.

This plasticity of human nature that underpins most if not all of the left's prescriptions for a better world is based on the falsehood that human beings are perfectible. If this were the case, why after thousands of years have we not perfected ourselves? Left wing thinking is that it hasn't happened yet because we just haven't been pushed hard enough. If we will just surrender enough of our individuality to the state, we will eventually create paradise on Earth. This is amazingly like religion (it just replaces God with the state) and is another model I have been using to try and understand the motivations of the left. It's an attempt to turn human societies into hives. This hive-mindedness is the real motivation behind most of the left's efforts. Socialist/communist societies are the ultimate hives. This drive to the hive illuminates the left wing's lust for equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity. You can't build a hive on individuals. Therefore we must all think exactly the same, we must spread the pain equally, and we must never compete with each other. The closest example in the animal kingdom are ants or bees. The closest example in human art is the Star Trek creation, the Borg ("Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated!"). This is what left wingers truly thirst for, whether they realize it or not.

The problem is that if socialism/communism is the best society we can possibly have, and there is some natural evolutionary trend towards human "perfection", why have these systems failed wherever they have been tried? As far as I can tell, the left's answer to that question is that it has failed in the past because they (the modern leftist) haven't tried it yet. It's the height of their hubris that they think they are smarter than all who have come before them (remember, if we're perfectible, then we all must be smarter than those who came before us, right?)


Edited by jmill (07/28/19 04:57 AM)

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#169254 - 07/28/19 05:11 AM Re: Mueller report [Re: jmill]
jmill Offline
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And of course I missed an example of the left's apocalyptic thinking most relevant to this particular thread, i.e., the left's belief that Robert Mueller was going to "SAVE America!", as if America needed saving from Trump.

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