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#168543 - 10/11/18 07:52 AM Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails
ColinFraizer Offline
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I first discovered Dan Simmons's writing through Hyperion, based on a friend's recommendation. I've loved science fiction since I discovered Star Trek (reruns) as a boy, so it was an obvious entrée.

Only lately have I discovered the Joe Kurtz detective novels, but I enjoy them just as much. Give them a read (or listen—I use Audible)!

It was also a vocabulary-expanding experience for me:
- skag
- roundheels
- short eyes
- stir


DS: did you chuckle every time you wrote "Angelina Farino Ferrara"? Something about the rhythm and alliteration of it made me smile every time I read it.

You did an amazing job building suspense in the novels.

Warning, Spoiler:
Thank you for not killing off Arlene. I clutched the arm of my chair with white knuckles while she waited in the mall parking lot, fearing the worst.

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#168544 - 10/11/18 10:58 AM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: ColinFraizer]
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DS called those his "Viagra books". Probably not in the literal sense. A hard man was needed, to kill the black dog. Three was enough, and Simmons quit writing the fourth, and returned to more complicated stuff. I would've gladly read a bunch more. Hey ColinFraizer, if you need more, I recommend Vachss and Lansdale.

Edited by Deianus (10/11/18 11:00 AM)
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#168548 - 10/11/18 01:15 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: Deianus]
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If you're looking for outstanding crime novels in addition to Dan's books, read Richard Stark - his Parker novels. Stark is the pen name for Donald Westlake.

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#168549 - 10/11/18 02:11 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: jmill]
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Registered: 04/22/18
Posts: 17
Loc: Montréal
Thanks jmill and Deianus for those suggestions ! I'll absolutely take a look at their work. If you had to pick only one book to start with from them, which would it be ?

Guess what's the "JK" meaning in my pseudo :P

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#168558 - 10/13/18 12:59 AM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: JPJK]
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Hey John Krasinski, I was thinking Burke books from Vachss and Hap & Leonard books from Lansdale. Burke is very similar to Kurtz, in my opinion and I'm sure, in some others opinions. Not absolutely necessary, to read them chronologically, because they are individual stories.
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#168561 - 10/13/18 01:52 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: Deianus]
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Registered: 04/22/18
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Hey John Krasinski
\:D

I was thinking Burke books from Vachss and Hap & Leonard books from Lansdale. Burke is very similar to Kurtz, in my opinion and I'm sure, in some others opinions. Not absolutely necessary, to read them chronologically, because they are individual stories.

Perfect ! Noted and thanks for your suggestion

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#168640 - 12/21/18 06:25 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: JPJK]
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On the advice of this group I started reading the Stark (Westlake) PARKER books. They are addicting. I haven't met a single redeeming character in any of them. They're great! I'm up to THE SCORE. Next up is THE JUGGER.
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#168709 - 01/20/19 12:57 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: George Moneo]
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Loc: Indiana, USA
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Using some of the $500 in cash that Arlene had retrieved from the ATM—Kurtz had promised to pay her back by the end of the month—he filled the Buick’s gas tank for her. He then went into the Texaco convenience store and bought a Bic cigarette lighter, twenty-five feet of clothesline, and four half-liter Cokes—the only drinks which came in glass bottles. Kurtz emptied the Coke and filled the bottles with gasoline, keeping out of sight of the attendant as he did so. He had gone into the restroom, removed his boxer shorts, and torn them into rags. Now he stuffed those rags into the mouths of the gasoline-filled bottles and carefully set the four bottles into the spare-tire niche in the Buick’s trunk. He did not have a real plan yet, but he thought that these things might come in handy when and if he visited the Seneca Social Club.


Joe Kurtz prepares for his commando assault on the Seneca Social Club.
Harcase p. 159

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#168741 - 02/03/19 08:37 PM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: ColinFraizer]
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Greeting to all. Thanks for the recommendations. I just started the sixth Burke novel ('SACRIFICE') and will start the 10th Parker novel soon ('THE GREEN EAGLE SCORE'). Both are great series. this only underscores my sadness that there will not be anymore Kurtz books...
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#168742 - 02/04/19 07:50 AM Re: Joe Kurtz Novels—Hardcase, …Freeze, …as Nails [Re: George Moneo]
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I just read ALTERED CARBON by Richard K. Morgan after thoroughly enjoying the lavishly done Netflix series. It's an excellent read. Think Philip Marlowe a few hundred years in the future with some twisty SF tech.
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