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#168465 - 09/30/18 09:44 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: steele,rick]
Jason_WB Offline
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I guess I mean also to ask, what are the favorable things about Kavanaugh's record that are worth supporting? I say this as someone who does not know the man at all other than the current circus.

And before anyone chastises me for not knowing, I will add that I've had a lot on my plate for a while now, and I know many other things, just not this.

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#168466 - 10/01/18 10:24 AM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Jason_WB]
jmill Offline
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Jason_WB, just my thoughts on your question. Others may see it differently.

Kavanaugh is not a pure "strict constructionist", but he's much more aligned with that type of judicial thought than any Democratic Supreme Court (SC) candidate would be. The Dems essentially believe, and have said publicly, that the Constitution is a "living document". To folks who think like me, that's the road to hell, because at its core, it says there are really no absolutes, that everything is mutable. That philosophy allows leftists to justify any behavior on their part to control their fellow citizens. If you want to see pure, unadulterated leftism, just watch Antifa with their bricks and bottles and bats, America's new Brown Shirts in black, who exemplify fascism under the guise of anti-fascism. That's where moral relativism ultimately leads you.

For example, freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Period. (No "Fire!" in a crowded theater when there is no fire, but just about everything else goes.) Democrats currently support hate speech laws, and hate speech bans on campus with kangaroo courts to enforce their campus speech codes. This is a direct attack on the First Amendment, and that's how you start the process of ending up with the Peoples' Republic of America. The first order of business for totalitarians is to control what people can publicly say, and that is one of the slipperiest of slippery slopes.

So Kavanaugh isn't as conservative as he could be, but he won't allow the left to legislate from the bench. The Dems opposition to Kavanaugh stems purely from their fear that he will not let them transform America into their vision of equality of outcome, which is simply another way to say socialism. They don't give a rat's rump about Christine Blasey Ford, she's merely a tool to stop Kavanaugh, and if they have to destroy him (and her) in the process, who cares? The end justifies the means in their morally relativistic world.

Kavanaugh is replacing a swing vote on the bench, Anthony Kennedy. The Dems are petrified when they think about what happens if they lose a swing vote (Kennedy) to a fairly certain conservative vote, making the court 5-4 conservative leaning, and then the same thing happens with Ginsburg's replacement. That would make the court a 6-3 conservative-leaning majority, almost unbeatable for any socialist societal engineering. They're using the fear of overturning Roe v. Wade as their rallying cry, which is something of a straw man, but it generates donations and votes from single-issue voters (mainly leftists) who think that abortion on demand is the most important issue in America, and hard-core leftists who buy into the entire left-wing agenda including abortion rights.

Rick Steele is right on the money when he says that SC picks often end up doing things contrary to what the people who appointed them expected. John Roberts, a Bush pick, voted essentially for Obamacare, sorely disappointing conservatives who were counting on him to help spike the law. And Kennedy, who was appointed by Ronald Reagan, has been on both sides of the political philosophy fence his entire career on the SC.

Mr. Kavanaugh will end up being a mixed bag, as all judges do, so this panic on the part of the left is purely political, not about merit in the slightest.


Edited by jmill (10/01/18 10:26 AM)

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#168467 - 10/01/18 03:32 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: jmill]
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I disagree that there are absolutes that should not ever evolve. I'm not defending any party in saying that; I think the Republic is in the final era of decadence before the collapse and Trump is a reality TV star and spoiled narcissist whose "stable genius" is that he tries to always come out on top and so he's easily manipulated by the people actually running the show.

All other attempts to lock onto any belief or ideology or party do not work for me personally, but I appreciate learning about more view points so as to not be completely ignorant of, well, just that. Other viewpoints.

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#168468 - 10/01/18 03:45 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Jason_WB]
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Sorry I thought I was responding to private correspondence with a different person too. Sorry to lead with a disagreement. But I don't understand the idea of absolutes as the highest good.

Oops. Dammit. My bad.

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#168469 - 10/01/18 03:47 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Jason_WB]
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I'm really not defending the Left, I swear. Replying only to the negative is a poor habit, for which I'm apologizing. The rest of what you said I appreciate a lot.
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#168470 - 10/01/18 06:55 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Jason_WB]
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Rachel Mitchell's Bombshell Report on Professor Ford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGBIMU__nmM
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#168472 - 10/02/18 05:05 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Enright]
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"I know Bret Kavanaugh, but I wouldn't vote to confirm him."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/why-i-wouldnt-confirm-brett-kavanaugh/571936/
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#168474 - 10/03/18 12:09 PM Re: The ongoing Kavanaugh saga [Re: Enright]
jryan Offline
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The latest revelation (I only count documented facts) is that the second door into Ford's home, the one she claimed was because she needed an escape route -- due to her PTSD from her ordeal 36 years prior -- was actually part of a larger renovation that created a separate office/rental suite in their home.

So yeah, she is a documented liar now...

So, realizing this, the story is that Kavanaugh drank a lot on college and might have thrown ice at someone at a bar once.

Meanwhile Ruth Bader Ginsburg is sleeping through SOTU addresses and blaming it on too much wine...
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